Episode 231: Here’s 5 science-based strategies to reduce your drinking TONIGHT
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Do you have confidence and discipline in most areas of your life and feel befuddled as to why your drinking feels so hard to control? If you’re ready to deal with the fact that your drinking is out of alignment with your values, your goals, and your sense of self, then this episode will give you a clear understanding as to what’s really going on and also five powerful science-based strategies that will help you stop yourself from over drinking.
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without relying on willpower, restriction, or shaming yourself into submission. Whether you’re trying to moderate or avoid shame spirals or just feel more in control after a stressful day, these tools will help you reset your nervous system, reconnect with your values, and get your brain off autopilot so you can build new habits that align with who you really are. We’re gonna talk about why your brain craves alcohol when you’re stressed.
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and how to rewire that urge, how my delay don’t deny method instantly puts you back in control, and why emotional goal setting works better than setting limits on your consumption. We’ll also talk about how to rehearse success using mental imagery and what it means to take an upstream perspective and why trying to stop yourself from over drinking at the end of the day is about as useless as trying to stop the last domino from falling. And finally, we’ll end with
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how checking in with your tomorrow self can interrupt the fuck it cycle.
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My name is Colleen and I’m a mindful drinking coach helping high achieving professional women permanently reduce their alcohol consumption by 80%. Join me each week for evidence based holistic strategies to regulate your nervous system, balance your dopamine, and activate the growth mindset that makes you so powerful in other areas of your life so you can stop worrying about losing control and trust yourself again. Get happy, not sober. It’s not about the alcohol.
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the show. Before we get started with the episode, I wanna share an opportunity that I have for you. I’m gonna do a one time test to see if my Neural Pathway Rewrite Workshop is appealing to women who don’t yet work with me in the next chapter. So this spring, I launched a workshop just for my clients and I’ve been doing it a couple times a month and I initially targeted for women who had just joined the program.
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it’s part of the onboarding process because I wanted to give them a quick and fast win and experience to confirm that they had made a good investment, they were in the right place, and yes, this is gonna work. But of course, I made it available to everybody in my program and I was kind of shocked when we were filling the workshops to capacity every single week because it wasn’t just the newbies that were coming. And I started hearing from clients who have been working with me for a year and more.
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because about half of my clients re-enroll for a second year in either the embodiment program or the emotional sobriety coach certification program because they realize at the end of the year that they’re just getting started with their growth journey with the emotional sobriety skills. I mean, these are superpowers and fixing the alcohol problem is just the beginning. But I was hearing from my long-term clients that if they had had this workshop in the first few weeks of the program,
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they would have made the turn even faster. It would have been easier. They said, you know, nothing against the path that you’ve taken us through and it’s worked, but this workshop is like the missing puzzle piece. It’s the bridge that puts the rest of the content into perspective. And when my clients tell me something about what’s working or what’s not working, I listen. That’s why the next chapter has become such a phenomenal, effective program.
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because I’m co-creating it with my clients in real time, responding to the problems, responding to the wins, responding to any and all feedback. And what we’re seeing is that it’s true. The new people who are attending the Neural Pathway Rewrite Workshop in the first few weeks are seeing results that before were taking months to achieve. So I’ve decided to do a test and I’m gonna offer this workshop to you.
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those of you that are following me on this podcast, to find out from you who aren’t even in my program if this is indeed a missing puzzle piece that allows you to make sense of what’s going on and actually see results and changes on your own. Or maybe it becomes the bridge that shows you, oh my God, I wanna work with this lady, I wanna do this thing because this really isn’t about the alcohol. This is about learning how to manage my mind, learning how to change.
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how I think about what I think. And I do want to do this work. And I’m actually glad that my frustration and guilt that I’ve been feeling about my drinking habits was intense enough to get my attention because it’s waking me up. Because otherwise, I would have just kept living a mediocre life under the assumption that my problem wasn’t bad enough to do anything about. So I’m offering the Neural Rewrite Workshop to you.
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so that you can see what you’re missing. We’re doing it on Saturday, July 12th at noon Eastern. So that’s 9 a.m. Pacific time. And if you are on the other side of the pond, it’s about five or 6 p.m. The workshop runs about two and a half hours and I’m charging $77 for it. If you can’t attend live, the replay will be available as soon as we get it processed. But you will also be getting a, I don’t know what this point is, probably 15 pages.
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a PDF with all the instructions and examples so that you can do this on your own. Whether you come live or not, you’ll need to do this on your own. Like this is a habit, this is a practice that you need to do on a regular basis so that you can continue to move the needle and go deeper. Now, I highly recommend that you attend live, like clear your calendar and make it happen because you’re gonna have questions. And on the workshop, I interact with.
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like people can volunteer and then I do rewrites with them and their story. So you’re not only learning from how to do it with yourself, but you’re also listening and learning as you watch me do it with other people. And the gift that’s gonna keep on giving is I also give you prompts what to put into chat GPT so that you can use chat GPT to help you do the rewrites. So getting coaching with me and instruction is very important, but you’ll also get a tool that
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I will tell ChatGPT for you what it needs to do. And I’ll tell you what, I’m really good at these rewrites. And I gotta say ChatGPT is just as good, if not better. Whether you do this on your own or use ChatGPT or get coaching, these rewrites will help you rewrite the story of what you think is the problem. Remember when I say that this is a thinking problem, not a drinking problem. It’s how you think. And this tool helps you change.
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how you think so that you can see what’s going on from a bigger perspective, a better perspective. Because rewrites get to the heart of your self-talk. And most people understand that they need to be nicer to themselves and that they shouldn’t beat themselves up. But they don’t know how to change that. And positive affirmations that don’t resonate in your body don’t work. Like you have to align energetically. Your mind and body have to be in sync. So these rewrites.
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help you come up with statements that move the needle. They are true. You’re not telling yourself a bullshit story. They are true, but they also feel better. And as you lift your energetic vibration, embracing a truth that feels better moves you in the direction of that truth. So there’s a whole science to this, to rewiring your neural pathways. And I’m going to teach it. So get in the show notes.
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and register for the Neural Pathway Rewrite on Saturday, July 12th and be prepared to literally have your mind blown. Don’t wait till the end of this episode to take the action. Pause now, get in the show notes, click the link and sign up and I’ll see you next weekend. And also in the show notes is a link to my YouTube channel because I recorded this episode, what you’re about to hear for YouTube. I did it on video. I’m trying to grow my channel over there.
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And so I would really appreciate if you have any desire to watch this episode instead of listen to it. Click the link, go to my YouTube channel, and it will pick up right where I’m about to start here. So you don’t have to listen to all that other stuff again. And while you’re there, even if you’re not there to watch the thing in its entirety, it’s about 22 minutes, please subscribe to my YouTube channel and leave me a comment. We’re trying to break through the very strong algorithmic barrier that is YouTube.
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and get some wind in our sails so we can reach a broader audience. So I really appreciate if you would do that for me. But either way, let’s dive into the episode. If you’re a strong-willed professional woman who has tons of confidence and willpower in other areas of your life, and the way you drink is just out of alignment with your values and your integrity, then it’s likely due to the fact that your brain has started associating alcohol with stress relief. And when drinking seems to actually help you cope,
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with your busy, overbooked schedule, it makes a lot of sense that the more stress you feel, the more alcohol you crave. But the truth is that your drinking habits are just habits, which means they can be learned and unlearned. If you’re the type of woman who holds herself accountable, then you can probably admit that you’ve trained your brain to think of alcohol as a reward, as a way to relax. And you’re also probably smart enough to realize that the negative side effects of too much stress and too much alcohol
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are starting to bite you in the ass. You’ve hit the law of diminishing returns. It’s just not worth it, which means there’s hope. But you need to realize that you cannot break any habit overnight. Habits live in your body, in your subconscious. They are your autopilot. They’re just what you do. You don’t have to try or pay attention. Habits are designed to take over when you’re feeling stressed or distracted and emotional, so you can focus on your other problems, which is why the first and foremost
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step you need to take is to commit to being kind and compassionate with yourself and change the story you’re telling yourself about what’s really going on. There is nothing wrong with you or your brain. Overdrinking doesn’t mean anything about you. And as you’re always learning from what works and what doesn’t work and what you like and what you don’t like, your brain is always changing, which means no habit is permanent. Overdrinking is just a sign that you’re operating on a deficit.
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you’re using alcohol to compensate for needs that you have that aren’t being met. Overdrinking is not so much a problem as it is an invitation to bring yourself back into balance. But changing any habit, even for the better, is going to take time and energy and focus, which means that you can’t expect more of yourself until you start giving more to yourself. And that’s what I’m going to help you do in this video. I’m going to give you my five science-based strategies that will help you stop yourself from overdrinking.
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They include my delay don’t deny method, mental rehearsal, emotional goal setting, taking an upstream perspective, and checking in with your tomorrow self. I’m going to go over each strategy and then explain exactly how to apply it. And I want to set clear expectations upfront. These tools work great when you have the bandwidth to actually use them. So don’t expect perfection of yourself.
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because you’re not always going to have the bandwidth. But that’s actually not the problem. You have to stop overreacting when you make a mistake. You can’t be a perfectionist about this. While it’s really nice to feel like you did well and maybe it was even easier than you expected, you actually learn the most when you get it wrong. We learn from failure. Done well, every setback is a set up that helps you do better next time. So you gotta see this as a process, right?
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And this is why I call myself the hangover whisperer, because your wins only show you what you’re already capable of, where you don’t need to do any more work. It’s the setbacks, the less than stellar performances that show you where you need to improve. And trust me when I say, the single most important improvement that you’re gonna need to make is how you treat yourself when you make a mistake. None of these strategies will work long-term.
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if you’re not willing to treat yourself with kindness and compassion when you fall short of the goal. The real habit that you need to break is allowing yourself to get sucked into the shame spirals and the anxiety that prevent you from learning from your mistakes. Because that pretty much guarantees that you’re gonna have the opportunity.
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to repeat the lesson. The bottom line is that over drinking is not about your relationship with alcohol at all. What needs to change is your relationship with yourself. And these five strategies are gonna help you do that. So the first tool that you can use is called my delay don’t deny method. Now it is.
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perfectly normal to over drink when you are around other people who are over drinking, especially if you’ve done so in the past. So before you jump into that situation, you have to just give yourself some time to set your own agenda and set your own pace. The delay, don’t deny strategy is really very simple. You’re just going to skip the first round when you get home from work or when you arrive at your event. Just start with a non alcoholic beverage. You need to hydrate anyway, then
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Just take some deep belly breaths and connect with yourself, your environment and the people around you. Let your nervous system adjust. If you’ve been running around like a bat out of hell all day long and your brain’s been three steps ahead of your body and then you go pour alcohol on that, then you’re gonna be three drinks in before you even feel the buzz.
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You gotta just slow your roll. Remember who you are and what you want. Over drinking is just a natural manifestation of our hurried, overpaced lifestyle. You have to hurry up and get there and then hurry up and order your drink and then hurry up and drink it so you can order another one. Then rinse and repeat until you don’t even know where the hell you are. If you wanna enjoy yourself in any situation, enjoy other people, enjoy your drink.
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then you have to be present for that. So the first round is just easiest to skip because it’s gonna feel good to let yourself decompress. Then after you’ve skipped the first round, if you want to go ahead and have a drink, then of course it’s fine if you do. But now it’s gonna be a choice instead of being automatic. You just gotta pull your brain off autopilot and take control of yourself. You’re not missing anything with that first drink. In fact, the delay don’t deny method allows you to be present and intentional.
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and set a pace for yourself for the evening so that you actually remember what happened. And remembering is actually the second skill, but kind of in reverse. It’s called mental rehearsal. Mental rehearsal is what we do when we’re getting ready to have a big conversation or give a presentation. We imagine ourselves going through the motions. We practice saying our lines. We troubleshoot problems that we think might come up and plan for what we’ll do if that happens. And here’s the thing.
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If you can’t imagine yourself doing something, you’re not actually gonna do it. Imagining is more than just thinking, it’s feeling. You’re practicing and pretending and performing for how you wanna show up in your mind. Mental rehearsal is one of your brain’s most powerful tools because the brain doesn’t know the difference between imagined and reality. This is why dreams feel so real and why we cry during Hallmark movies.
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and why the very idea of something bad happening to someone that we love gets us super freaked out because we’re projecting ourselves into a situation and then imagining, creating the feeling that we would experience if we went through that. Mental rehearsal actually primes the brain to look for evidence that what we believe is gonna happen is actually happening. This is why anxiety is such a bitch. Because the more you imagine that something is gonna go wrong,
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the more you are hypersensitive to any little tiny bit of information that it is going wrong. And then you overreact to benign and neutral situations and basically create yourself a self-fulfilling prophecy. But intentional mental rehearsal can actually activate confirmation bias to work in your favor. There’s a part of the brain called the reticular activating system that filters out incoming data because you can’t
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possibly see and notice everything all at once. Like it would be sensory overload. You’re exposed to like 11 billion or maybe million, whatever, 11 something billion bits of information every single second. But your conscious mind can only process about 50 bits of information, which is why your brain has to have a filter so you can see what you’re actually looking for. And then your brain’s like, ah.
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I was right, there it is. But then you completely ignore any evidence that you might’ve been wrong because you’re too busy telling yourself a story that this is exactly how I thought it would go. When I have a client who is worried about over drinking at some future event, her homework is to spend two to three minutes a day, multiple times a day, creating that event in her mind. Imagining herself doing the delay, don’t deny strategy. Imagining herself ordering a soda and lime in between drinks. Imagining herself.
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feeling buzzed and thinking, hmm, this is really nice. I don’t think I need anymore. Imagining herself noticing when she’s tired, she feels good about the evening and now she’s ready to go. Instead of feeling anxious about who else is leaving and just going along to get along when somebody opens another bottle. The more you practice, the better you’re going to do. The third strategy is to set an emotional goal.
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for your evening or your event. The biggest mistake you can make is to focus on how much you will or won’t be drinking because your brain’s job is to help you get what you want. And if you focus on what you don’t want, then you’re gonna get what you don’t want. So if you don’t wanna overdo it, then you have to shift your focus to what you wanna be doing instead. Drinking in moderation is just a natural side effect of feeling good and grounded and relaxed. Ask yourself,
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How do I want to feel? And then answer the question honestly. Maybe you want to feel connected to the people around you. Feel like you’re having a good time. Feel like you’re getting to know people better. Or maybe you’re just enjoying watching or relaxing in the peace and quiet. Well, if that’s what you want, then your brain will naturally alert you when you cross the line between buzzed and intoxicated. Because
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Being intoxicated doesn’t actually feel fun and relaxing or connecting. You have to worry about if you’re slurring. You have to try to pay more attention, which means you’re not even gonna remember much. The bottom line is that if you train your brain to focus on how you want to feel, instead of how much you want to drink or not drink, you’re gonna get so much better results. Now the next strategy is one of this.
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the core skills that I teach in my one-year group coaching program called The Next Chapter. It’s called taking an upstream perspective. Trying to use your willpower to avoid over drinking at the end of the night is like trying to get the last domino in your domino chain from falling. Your brain is just gonna say, it, who cares? I’m already over my limit. It doesn’t matter anyway. But here’s what you need to understand. Your drinking is not the cause of your problems.
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It’s the effect of your problems. You’re stressed, overwhelmed, saying yes to shit that you should be saying no to, worrying about all the wrong things, and then trying to use your willpower to stop yourselves from doing the one thing that actually gives you some relief. You gotta look at the big picture. Why do you need so much relief? Why are you living a life that you feel like you have to escape? And while this may seem like an overwhelming issue, like you have to go change everything about your life, in truth,
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You just have to stop for like a minute, take a deep breath, give yourself a break in the here and now. Maybe even do that a few times a day. And if you hear that advice and think, I don’t even have time to take a breath, then we have found your problem. You need to wake up and realize that there is a maniacal bully controlling your brain and it’s hijacked your nervous system. Hurried and worried are feelings, not facts. You do have options, my friends. If you valued your own peace,
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over everything else, you would be walking through your life and showing up much differently. You are actually the maker of your own time. You are the master of your energy. And instead, you’re feeling pulled in all these different directions and being distracted and ping-ponged around from notifications and demands and expectations you can actually opt out of. Believe it or not, it actually takes more energy to drag your ass through life tired.
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drinking a bunch of coffee and energy drinks because you didn’t take care of yourself yesterday. Stop doing that. In less than 24 hours, you could turn this whole thing around. You could actually use your willpower to set yourself up for success tomorrow instead of trying to use all your willpower to prevent yourself from trying to grab some relief because you spent all your energy and willpower today cleaning up yesterday’s bad decisions. You have all the energy and willpower that you actually need. You’re just doing it wrong.
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if you want to drink in moderation, you have to ask yourself what actions you need to take that would cause that to just happen. It’s not actually hard to drink in a way that gives you pleasure instead of problems. Overdrinking is a symptom of an emotional disconnect. Your brain is unplugged from your body. You’re out of gas and you already know that it’s so much easier to control yourself when you already feel like you are in control. So what do you need to do in advance?
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so that you actually feel like you have the bandwidth to stay focused and to pay attention to yourself and to what’s happening around you so that you’re not tempted to just say, fuck it, because it doesn’t matter anyway. Get a good night’s sleep, make sure you’ve eaten, make sure you’re hydrated, take a few breaks throughout the day. Just try going to the bathroom and peeing without your phone. It’s like.
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amazing, like a little mini vacation. Finish the tasks that you would normally just leave until the next day so you can actually feel accomplished and give yourself full permission to just relax. Deal with the unpleasant shit that’s hanging over your head so you don’t go into the evening all pissed off or upset or worried because habits take over when you’re in a state of stress. Use your willpower to set yourself up for success before you start drinking because when you feel powerful,
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and in control and confident, you drink like somebody who’s powerful and in control and confident. Like it’s pretty simple. You’re gonna drink how you feel. So take the time and energy and use your willpower to make sure that you feel good so that you can enjoy your evening and you’re not even tempted to screw over your tomorrow self. And that brings us to the fifth strategy, which is check in with your tomorrow self. So let’s say,
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You’re having a good evening. Everything’s going on track. And then it comes time when you should probably cut it off. And you’re tempted to just have one more drink because you’re having a good time. You’re not ready to stop yet. Right. And we all know how easy it is when you’re already a few drinks in to convince yourself that one more isn’t going to make a big difference. And you know what? Maybe it’s not. There’s no right answer here. Maybe you have time to sleep in tomorrow. Maybe it’s just so much fun that it’s worth it. Maybe, but.
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Let’s find out. So what you’re going to do is you’re going to go to the bathroom and you’re going to look in the mirror and you’re going to check in eye contact with your tomorrow self. You’re going to ask her if it’s okay with her for you to have one more or more because she’s the one that’s going to have to deal with your shit in the morning, which means she should get a vote. Don’t you think? So go to the bathroom, shut the door, give yourself a break, take a breath while you’re in there, and then look yourself straight in the eye and say, Hey, my friend,
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I’m having a good time. Are you having a good time? Is it okay with you if I stay and have one more? You might just be shocked at the answer, enough to pull you out of the fog and make a better decision. This is why it’s not about your relationship with alcohol at all. It’s about your relationship with yourself. You don’t even have a high tolerance for alcohol like you think you do. What you have is a high tolerance for completely ignoring yourself and looking dead in your own eyes will bring up your truth for you.
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It may even bring tears to your eyes, pierce you through the heart in a good way. You need to wake up the connection between your head and your heart, your mind and your body. You can tell yourself it doesn’t matter all you want to, but when you look another person, including yourself, dead in the eyes, you know that it does matter because you’re a person too, and you deserve to be treated with the same respect that you would treat any other person on the planet. So stop treating your own body
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like it’s a damn trash can. You don’t need to finish all of the wine. You can pour it down the sink. You don’t need to drink with other people so they can feel better about their own drinking. You don’t need to act like it’s really hard to tell yourself no, especially if you’ve already had plenty. You need to be honest with yourself because you’re in there, she’s in there. And if you’re nice to her, she’s gonna be nice to you. So I hope that you find that these strategies are kind of eye-opening and game-changing.
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To recap, we’ve got delay, don’t deny, emotional goal setting, mental rehearsal, taking an upstream perspective, and checking in with your tomorrow self. I want you to write these down, put them in your phone, and then set an intention to try, use, and practice every single one. And then I wanna reiterate, it’s so important for you to celebrate the wins, but expect that you’re not always going to follow through on your intentions, because you’re already in the habit of just,
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giving up because it doesn’t matter anyway. But that’s just a thought. Now thoughts are habits too, and those are the habits that you actually need to change. You gotta change the way you think long before you change the way you drink. This is a thinking problem, not a drinking problem. And changing your mind is going to be a lot of work. And it’s a two step forward, one step back sort of process. But just remember that every step back,
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where you’d be tempted to say, oh, I’m going all the way back to square one. It doesn’t matter what I do anyway. You’re tempted to respond to your mistakes with a give up perfectionist mentality and just say, okay, this is evidence that I’m not capable. But what has to change is that you respond to your mistake as though it’s a learning opportunity. You clear the shame, you clear the anxiety and say, okay, what did I miss? Where did I blow through my own stop signs? Where was I checked out?
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How can I set myself up for success so that I can improve more next time? The more you pay attention to every little detail through your week, not just the event, but the thought occurred to you to go check in with your tomorrow self and then you didn’t do it. But the thought occurred to you, like that’s actually a win. That’s proof of progress. And the motivation to continue is for you to show and feed your brain a steady supply of evidence of progress.
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If it occurred to you to check in with your tomorrow self, that’s still a win. That thought, that urge just wasn’t strong enough to override the autoresponder in your brain that said, ah, fuck it. It’s over anyway. We’re already beyond our limit. We’ll try again next time. That’s the give up mentality. That’s the thinking habit that has to change. So you have to be willing to learn from every mistake, seeing it as neutral. It’s not a problem. It’s just an opportunity because
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when you start learning from your mistakes is when you will actually stop repeating them. And I will just say that if you need more than just a video on YouTube, you’ve been trying a long time on your own and just feel lost and overwhelmed, then I want you to schedule a discovery call to talk with me or somebody on my team. You don’t have to do this alone. And in fact, science shows that the fastest way to change your mind, which is what has to happen,
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The fastest way to change your mind is to join a tribe of like-minded people who are also working towards the same goals. The problem with dealing with an alcohol problem is most people set the goal to not drink, to get sober. And so if you’re trying to drink in moderation and also trying to be okay with some of your mistakes, you’re not gonna find support in those communities for you to get where you wanna go. In my community, our goal is to get happy, not sober.
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because it’s a natural side effect. Happy people don’t drink themselves into a stupor. So I have a discreet community for professional women who want to reduce their drinking by about 80 % by setting the goal to get happy, not sober. My clients fundamentally understand that getting sober is just pouring gas on the all or nothing mindset. And they are ready to stop playing games. They are ready to end the obsession. They are ready.
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to take themselves seriously. They fundamentally understand that this isn’t about the alcohol. It’s a bad habit. It’s an unhealthy coping mechanism, and it’s just getting the best of them. And quitting alcohol is just a band-aid. It’s short-term relief. So if you’re ready to put this whole thing behind you, for real, for good, and you will settle for nothing less than full, complete transformation of yourself, and you’re ready to do the work, you just understand that you don’t have the bandwidth to figure out
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how to do the work. You need somebody with a proven system to guide you through the change process, to hold you accountable, to offer you support, to give you some guidance. And you wanna work with somebody who thinks outside of the box, who actually has the tools to rip this problem out at the root cause of the issue, then let’s talk. Click the link in my show notes and apply for a free discovery call. And don’t worry that it’s gonna be some high pressure sales. We literally,
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Do not do that because my program is not a good fit for everyone. And as I guarantee the results of the program, we have to screen applicants to make sure that you’re at a place in your life where you’re ready to commit the time and the energy as well as the money to truly learn how to change your mind, change who you think you are, so that the natural side effect
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is a reduction of your drinking. It comes back into a level where you can drink for pleasure again, instead of feeling like alcohol is the source of all of your soul sucking problems. The bottom line is that my program would be a good fit for you if you have a deep inner knowing that this really isn’t about the alcohol. You’re dealing with a bad habit and an unhealthy coping mechanism. And yes, it’s getting the better of you, but.
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And that’s exactly why you’re not looking for the short-term relief that just quitting alcohol would give you, because you have enough experience being yourself to know that sobriety would just be pouring gas on your all-or-nothing mindset. And if you’re really wanting to be done with the alcohol obsession, then just switching teams from drinker to non-drinker isn’t going to do it. And the only reason that you haven’t yet been able to do this on your own is because
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While you are willing to do the work, you don’t actually know how to do the work. And you don’t have the bandwidth to figure out how. And it actually excites you to get coaching and have guidance and accountability from somebody who thinks outside of the box, somebody who actually knows how to rip this problem from its roots. And you believe that that’s possible. And you also understand that asking for help is a sign of strength, not weakness. Powerful women have teams of support.
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So if it feels like a relief to just allow somebody to guide you, tell you what to do, give you a step-by-step proven and also guaranteed process, then get the link in the show notes and apply for a discovery call. And that’s it for me. I hope you have a kick-ass rest of your day, rest of your week, and I’ll see you on the next episode.