Ep 214: Histamines and hormones: why alcohol hits differently at certain times of the month with Dr. Meg Mill
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There was a time in my life where I was drinking every single day. And sometimes I’d actually wish that wine gave me headaches, like it did for some of my lightweight friends. I had one girlfriend who would act like she was up for a party, come over wearing the sash and the tiara, and then stop drinking after a few sips. She’d set her glass down and say, oh, I’m so sorry. I just can’t drink this stuff. Can I get a La Croix?
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and I’d get her one and then tease her as I poured her wine into my glass because I wasn’t gonna waste it. But I was secretly jealous because it seemed like nothing could slow me down. I rarely even had a noticeable hangover, even when I opened a second bottle. And for years, I was too busy to notice the quiet, seemingly unrelated symptoms that were making my life more and more difficult. The anxiety, irritability, the inflammation.
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I just felt old and tired and I didn’t know then what I know now. I didn’t so much as have a high tolerance for alcohol. I had a really high tolerance for ignoring myself because our bodies are always giving us information. It’s just not always loud. In today’s episode, I’m talking with Dr. Meg Mill, a functional medicine practitioner and a health detective who helps women heal from the root causes of symptoms that are holding us back.
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We’re doing a deep dive into histamines, the sources of histamines in food and alcohol, as well as when and why our bodies produce histamines, how to know if you’re dealing with a histamine overload, and then what to do about it if you are. This conversation has already impacted my own drinking habits because so often I set rules of when I can drink and how much I can drink and being able to recognize that it’s certain times of the month
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not all glasses of wine are created equal. You’re going to walk away with information that you can immediately apply to your own drinking habits and the motivation to actually apply it.
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more for my clients. if you’re one of my clients, this is for you. But after four years of running my coaching program for women who want to reduce their alcohol consumption by 80%, I am ready to offer the next level, which is my emotional sobriety coaching certification program. And right now I’m just offering it to internal clients who have done the work to get emotionally sober and are now asking like, what’s next?
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This is going to be an advanced training program for any woman who wants to live her life in a state of emotional freedom and personal power, whether that be as her role as a parent or a professional coach or a partner or just a change maker in the world. It’s not just for people who want to apply the tools professionally. It’s for anybody who wants to live and model and share this way of being. We have to become the change we want to see in the world.
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And emotional sobriety is radical ownership of your own emotional experience. Instead of allowing your emotions to control your thinking, you are able to use your mind to control your emotions and then act in opposition to all the painful and self-imposed limitations that we carry around in our emotional baggage set. Emotional sobriety is what gives you access to higher levels of consciousness so that you are truly capable
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of accomplishing anything your heart desires. You know, the first year of my program really is about drinking reduction, getting your own shit together. But once you do that and you wake up, like for many of us, we want to save our people. We want to show our kids and our friends and our partners how to live in the power that we have found, how to communicate, how to set boundaries, how to ask for what we want. And just as importantly, how to let go.
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of what no longer serves us. And this certification program trains you to embody and model emotional resilience in all areas of your life. And then create a ripple effect of your own emotional power, emotional leadership at home, at work, and out in the world. Plus, I want to build a network of trained guides who can share this framework in formal settings like coaching.
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and then also informal settings, leadership, mentorship roles. And after four years, it’s finally kind of come to me how I can do this, how I can offer two different tracks, one for people that just wanna apply it to their own personal growth and development, and then also how to train coaches in not only the skill of life coaching, but also the skills of emotional sobriety. And I’m telling you this because I want you to understand that while my
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program the next chapter is designed to help women pull themselves out of the weeds. Get your head above water. Get your drinking under control. Get your health under control. And fix the mental health issues that are holding you back. But that’s just the pain point. You know, the purpose of my program is to teach women how to take back their power, how to level up and realize where they’re holding themselves back. You know, when I look at where I was
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Five years ago, sitting on the couch every single night, complaining about my husband, stressed out about my kids, feeling like there’s so much that I want to do in life, but I can’t do it, so I guess I’ll just drink. When I look at where I was five years ago and where I am now, happily divorced, running a successful business, creating something that does not exist in the world, a radical alternative that is highly effective for women who are drinking too much, just like I was.
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It is amazing what you can do. And five years sounds like a long time, but when I look at the alternative, like not doing it, where would I be right now if I hadn’t taken the step to take my life back? Yes, it’s been hard. It’s been a struggle, but life’s a struggle one way or the other. You have to choose what you’re willing to struggle for.
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And so I just want to encourage you that there is so much waiting for you on the other side of what you think you can’t do or what you think is holding you back. And coaching is the vehicle to get you where you want to go. If you could figure this out all on your own, you would already be doing it. It has taken me four years of building this business full-time seven days a week, plus interacting with.
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Hundreds of women who are struggling so that I can learn, you know Not just what worked for me But what does and doesn’t work in terms of best practices and how to get where you’re going even faster and there’s no way I would have been able to figure this out if number one I hadn’t made it my literal full-time job and number two I hadn’t gotten coaching from my mentors in programs that helped me up level my mindset that I’m now able to bring those tools into my program So I just want to tell you nobody
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who is successful, got successful by trying to do it all by themselves. And number two, I have a roadmap to not only reduce your drinking by 80 % or whatever is gonna work for you, but also to uplevel your mindset, get emotionally sober and take back your one precious life. And there is no program on the planet where you can go in with a drinking problem and experience a community of women who...
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have no intention of getting sober. We learn as a group, like we have mindful drinking meetups to restore our relationship with alcohol so that we see it as something that is pleasurable. We have fun and we’re doing the work to heal our relationship with ourselves so that we don’t have any desire to numb and dumb ourselves with the mommy juice. I’m just excited to announce that you can have your cake and eat it too. And I can show you how to do that.
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through the skills of emotional sobriety. So if you’ve been on the fence listening to my content and wondering if you should take the leap, then take the leap now. What are you waiting for? Get in the show notes and click the link to apply for a discovery call before your brain can talk you out of it, because it will. This is a thinking problem, not a drinking problem. You have to stop thinking and move into action.
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And that is what we’re gonna talk about on this episode with Dr. Meg Mill so that you can learn how to control the histamine load in your body that causes so much inflammation. So enjoy the interview. All right, Dr. Meg Mill, I’m so excited to have you on the show and introduce you to my audience. Will you do the honors and tell us who you are and what you do and maybe a little bit about why you do it?
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Yes. Yeah. So I am Dr. Meg Mill and my background started with a doctorate in pharmacy. actually graduated the doctorate in pharmacy and then went on to do a residency in practice, ambulatory care, clinical pharmacy. So I was working in clinics, outpatient clinics, in hospital systems with patients. And we know, you know, we were doing all of the protocols in the hospital. I mean, you know, we have these
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disease states are progressing, all the medication protocols and people just were getting more and more sick on more and more medications and not really getting better. We were making them survive, but not really thrive. And I always had been more interested in preventative care and all of that. So I’m not understanding why we’re not giving the education to some of these things that can actually reverse disease states.
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putting them on more medication. We could have a whole podcast on that because there’s a lot of things that are causing that. So years ago, I was having some of my own personal health struggles and through that I was also not getting answers. So I was jumping around to different gastroenterologists and trying to get answers and just not getting them myself. And I’m getting near the picture of health. I was very young at the, you’re young, you’re healthy and you’re like, yeah, but I can’t eat.
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I’m reacting to everything, you why are all these things going on? So that’s when I found functional medicine. So I left pharmacy and went back and got a certification, did years of education and certification in functional medicine. And I opened a functional medicine practice. So I have a virtual functional pregnancy practice where I work with women all over the world and really get to the root. Look at all the connections because what we want to do is when we’re having symptoms, the symptoms are showing, okay,
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if you have a headache or myograine, if you have GI issues, if you feel like your moods are all over the place, you’re having anxiety, all of these things, fatigue, they’re symptoms that are showing that there’s an imbalance in your body. And what we need to do is look at why that’s occurring, what’s going on, what’s creating these physiological imbalances and put everything back into balance. And then we see these really huge health transformations. So I’m fortunate enough to have worked with hundreds of women
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in my virtual functional medicine practice and really seeing this change and this transformation in health and the way people feel and the way they can show up in their lives. Yeah, I know that one of the things that I have learned over the course of my own life, especially with alcohol use disorder, we tend to think that over drinking is the problem and it is, but there’s also so many reasons that you are
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needing to relieve your stress or you’re reaching for something to cope and alcohol just becomes kind of as I say the drug of choice, you know, other people use sugar, other people use other types of foods or behaviors and it’s very compassionate to look at the big picture instead of demonizing yourself for weakness or a lack of willpower and self-control.
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to really look at, what’s causing these cravings? What’s causing these urges? What’s causing this stress that I need so much relief from? So I really find functional and integrative medicine to be certainly a very important piece of the puzzle because you do address root causes. Yeah. So we’re looking at what’s going on and why this is happening exactly. Yeah.
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So the first thing I really wanted to pick your brain about was histamines, because I know that there’s histamine in wine, but can you talk and just educate us a little bit about histamines, what they are, what they do, and how they are associated with alcohol? Yeah, this is going to be tricky. And so this is something I hear regularly, especially when we’re talking about alcohol, because sometimes when we’re looking at
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histamine and we’ll get into what it is and what starts to happen, but it can be variable from so many different reasons. And so that’s why like, I think it’s sometimes hard for people because they say, oh, you know what? I could have a glass of wine at this time of the month, but maybe this time of the month I get a migraine or I get, you know, like congested or digestive issues. And so it’s not, you know, it’s not the alcohol, it’s not the wine because I don’t have that all the time. And, and we can see this fluctuate so I can tell you, you know,
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that it still could be this issue. So histamine is what we call a biogenic amine. It’s actually released from our mast cells and our basophils. So they’re part of our immune system. You have two parts of the immune system. You have your innate immune system, which is your frontline. They’re just ready to get anything. And then you have your adaptive immune system, which is really more tagging and targeting. So mast cells are part of the innate immune system. So when we get a pathogen that comes in our body or an allergen or something that shouldn’t be in there,
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histamines released and it’s actually has purposes to get the invaders out. We have four different types of histamine receptors and that’s what can be confusing because we can see like the typical allergic type symptoms but we can also see digestive symptoms. We can see anxiety, we can see insomnia, we can see all of these other symptoms, myograins that start to come up because we have different receptors for histamine in our body. And one of the things that histamine does
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intentionally to help other parts of the immune system get to where they need to get is create inflammation. Inflammation in an acute phase is normal and good, but what starts to happen is when we start to get this imbalance of histamine, we start to get regular inflammation. So we start to be inflamed all the time and that can cause a lot of problems.
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I just want to be clear. Does alcohol contain histamines or does it trigger a histamine release? It kind of depends on the type of alcohol. So like red wines, like a classic histamine, most alcohol will contain some level of histamine, but it depends on the type of alcohol can also vary. So, you know, like a vodka.
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would be something that would have less histamine than we would say wine by the way that wine is fermented. Alcohol is fermented. Fermented foods generally have histamine in them. Okay. So it’s something that is present in foods or drinks, but it’s also something the body creates or not. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, okay. So we’re going to think of it like a bathtub.
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So we have a bathtub and the water’s flowing into the bath and as long as the drain is unplugged, the water’s gonna keep going through. So you’re have water coming in, water going out. So we have two things that start to happen when we think of our body. So we want our body in homostasis. We want it to stay where this bathtub is just flowing. We need to be able to break down histamine in our foods.
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So we have two pathways to do that. We have one in the gut, which is diamine oxidase, and that’s how you break down histamine from food or drinks. And then we have two, which is methylation. So in order to break down histamine, you need to have those pathways going. So someone who does not have good breakdown, they can eat food or drink alcohol that doesn’t break down. So you could be putting this level of histamine in your body and your body’s not processing it. You’re not methylated well.
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You don’t have good diamine oxidase pathways. That could be from underlying gut health issues. That could be genetics. There can be a lot of different factors. So we need to make sure we’re breaking the histamine down. And that’s where we say it’s coming in from the outside through, let’s say, the alcohol. We can’t break it down. Then we also can turn the water up. What’s happening? Our body is just making more histamine. So that can affect the overall level of histamine in your body. So we could say, okay, maybe you had
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have an underlying infection in your gut that is histamine producing microbes, maybe of candida or a parasite. Maybe you have environmental exposures. Maybe you’re living in a moldy environment. Maybe you’ve just had a virus. Like all of these things are activating our immune system to build more histamine. Even high estrogen levels can be something estrogen can stimulate mass cells to release histamine. So we have hormonal imbalances. We have all of these things that are
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creating the body to release more histamine. So that’s where it gets complicated. So you can say, okay, maybe if you didn’t have all these other triggers going on up here and you had a glass of red wine, you would be okay. Like your body could break down that level of histamine in the wine right now because it’s not being bothered by anything else. Then another time, you know, maybe your estrogen levels are higher than your progesterone levels.
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maybe you were exposed to some allergens, maybe in your body spiting something else, well then your body’s making more histamine. So then that level is a place where you’re gonna start to get symptoms, adding in the extra histamine from the outside. So let’s talk about symptoms. I mean, how do you know if you have high histamines? Yeah, and that’s tricky because there’s, like we said, there’s four different types of receptors. So we can have all different symptoms. So headaches and migraines are a symptom.
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Fatigue can even be a symptom, but we can see the allergy type symptoms. We can see rashes if you’re hypersensitive. GI symptoms are very common. So a lot of like we’ve been talking about the histamine and mast cell activating microbes in your GI. So we can have a lot of GI symptoms. We can have dizziness. We can have rashes. We can have insomnia, anxiety. So when we’re looking at these things, they’re full body issues. So we’re saying, okay,
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It’s usually affecting more than one system in your body. So it’s usually something like, you know, maybe you have anxiety, maybe you can’t sleep well, maybe you have a digestive, you have headaches. You know, the headaches are a big trigger. see, you know, allergy symptoms are big, skin issues are a big trigger, are symptom that we see. So we’re seeing this combination of things. Now, you know, someone else can say, okay, well,
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some of those symptoms can also be symptoms of other things, but it’s really getting the knowledge of when we’re looking at it for this perspective, how are we looking at your whole body, how it’s reacting? And sometimes like you, can see people who are more sensitive would be a sign that you feel like I’m the one that like reacts to things or I have allergies or I have like the digestive issues that other people don’t have or I’m more sensitive or that those people generally are having underlying histamine issues.
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And what are the dangers of ignoring symptoms of histamines? Because I know that some symptoms can’t be ignored. I used to be, honestly, I was jealous when I was drinking way too much, right? I was jealous of, I had a friend who always got a headache if she drank wine, you know? And you’re like, okay, okay. You you’re a newbie here, but I didn’t get headaches. But I can definitely recognize that I blew past a lot of other stop signs.
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So what are the dangers of having elevated histamine levels in the body and not paying attention? Like I always say, you don’t have a high tolerance for alcohol. You have a high tolerance for ignoring what’s going on in your body. But what’s the problem with that when it comes to histamines?
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So what can start to happen is that people start to, when you’re not, like there’s a reason you’re reacting to histamine. So we don’t start having these symptoms when we’re babies. Even if we have genetically, if we don’t break down diamine oxidase well or methylate well, we’re usually not having these symptoms because our body can handle it. So we start building up. You have layer upon layer upon layer of things. And when you’re not addressing it, you know, we start to see worse symptoms. So maybe your headaches are getting worse, you’re getting them.
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often, maybe you have more forgetting, more chronic fatigue, digestive issues, go out of out of control. But then once we really start to see all of those things, we start to also see you just sometimes become hyper sensitive to everything. So when you’re ignoring them and it’s just going and going and going, we can start to get to this place where you start to be very limited in your diet. You can’t eat foods like you’re just reacting to everything where your immune system starts to go haywire, basically.
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And it starts to say, okay, I’m angry now because I’ve been dealing with all of this for so I’m really simplifying it, but like all of this for so long that now I just react. So we see people start to get on very limited diets, on having reactions to everything. And you know, that’s something that tends to happen long-term. And so one of the things people can do and I can link, I have a guide that’s the essential guide to histamine intolerance that actually lists like.
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the high histamine foods, it’s 25 pages, it gives you a lot of information. One of the things that’s tricky is a place you can start is to try for a few weeks a low histamine diet and see if the diet makes any difference. If you’re pulling high histamine foods, so many of them are healthy. We’re thinking things like bone broth and avocado and banana and tomato and strawberries. These are healthy foods and a lot of people are eating them to be healthy, but they could be contributing to your histamine issues.
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Now we can use that tool as an investigation tool. The one thing I see people get stuck on is they can be so worried and rigorous with their diet, but they’re not doing the things to address the underlying issues. And then you just start and sometimes start reacting more. So the diet is an investigation tool. It’s not a really a solution. We don’t want to just live on that low histamine diet.
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Are there blood markers for histamine? Like how would you, how would your doctor know that you have high histamines? So it’s tricky because some of these diagnoses are really tough and you can test histamine in the blood, but I see many people with normal blood histamine levels that, you know, clearly present with histamine intolerance. And so we need to look at it just really more by what you’re experiencing. I mean, I love to do stool testing because stool testing can give us a lot of
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really detailed data on GI wise. This is really very new in data and we’ve seen it really grow a lot since COVID. So more and more people after having the virus are having histamine intolerance and mast cell activation syndrome, which is like the next level where like I’m saying, your body’s just reacting to everything.
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And that is because like we’re talking about all these loads, then that virus load gets on there. And so sometimes maybe you had COVID, but then all of sudden, like a few months later, you’re starting to have all these symptoms that you never had before. So we’re learning so much more about this, but we do know there are specific histamine releasing and mast cell activating microbes. So when we do the stool test, we can actually see what those are, target them, target things like H. pylori, candida, parasites that
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could also be aggravating your immune system. And how long or, and what’s the process for getting out of what sounds like is a chronic high histamine levels? Is there a difference between acute histamine? know, like when sometimes if I have a glass of red wine, certain wines, all of the sudden, like I’ll feel it in my eyes. Like my eyes, nobody else would notice. Like, it’s not like I start swelling up, but I just start feeling like I’m
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inflating or something. Like, you know, I just feel puffy or something. And so can you talk about the difference between an acute histamine response and then chronically high elevated levels? Yeah. And so some of that acute, you know, you’re learning what your body’s threshold is. So we, you know, we’ll learn, okay, if you have this glass of wine and that’s above your threshold. And so you can really determine if you’re having no other symptoms, then you can determine kind of your individual thresholds and what your body can handle. Because remember, we’re talking about like
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how much do we need to be in balance? When we’re looking at people who are symptomatic, who are really seeking out help because they’re not feeling well, it can really vary. I I had someone recently who had been not able to breathe for like severe symptoms, like couldn’t even take a deep breath for four years. And within about six weeks, she was like, my life is like completely different. all my, our symptoms were gone? Because we were able to really pinpoint
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what was going on. Other people have more layers and so it can be a longer process to say, well, you know what? We need to hit this layer and this layer and this layer. But if we do that and I’ve just worked with hundreds of people that have these issues, we know what to do and if we do that and if they’re patient, it works. What are some of the things that you would do? So we would look at, like we would say, would look at the gut.
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We would look at hormone balance because again, we talked about imbalances in hormones can be. So we need to look at your hormone levels. We need to look at our environmental toxins. One of the things that people don’t want to do right away when you’re having this issue is detox. So we need to look at that in the right order and do some things to prep you for detox because that can actually make things worse if you’re doing a detox program.
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Detox like from alcohol or something else? Detox. So a lot of people like out there now on Instagram or different natural health are promoting like these standardized, like everybody needs to detox. Everyone needs to do these supplements and you know, and then you feel like, I, you know, I need to detox too. And then, and there’s a lot of practitioners that are just like, oh, I’ve detox everyone. So you take certain supplements that are pushing toxins out of the cells.
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If you don’t have all of your drainage pathways open, if you’re more sensitive, it makes you feel worse. So unfortunately then people come to me like, oh, I did these things and now I’m worse off. So we want to do that in the right order in the way that supports you. And then we’d also look at mold, a mold, a living in mold where we can look at like some people who have tick-borne illnesses, some people have viral infections, some people have...
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know, food sensitivities, all these different things that we’re looking at, making sure your mitochondria and your cells are functioning. So there’s a lot of different layers that we can look at to make sure that everything’s back into balance. So there’s no like, there’s no, it’s not an easy fix. And while it can be quick, I heard you say with this gal who had good results, it was still a six week process, right?
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So it’s anything that you’re really doing to bring your body back into balance is going to take a little bit of time. And in a fast paced world where we do like have medications that are like supposed to act like this, I work with a lot of people with headaches and migraines and when we can get daily like severe headaches and migraines that people have every single day that are incapacitating, we can get them to go away. I mean, I’ve worked with so many people that it’s like, I can’t even believe my life has just
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dramatically changed because now I’m not living with this. But that being said, it is going to take you a little bit of time because we’re bringing your body back into balance. We are not saying like, okay, we’re giving you this medication that’s going to cover up that symptom. We’re saying, what do we need to do to balance your body? And balancing your body takes a little bit of time. Yeah. It’s not usually just one thing.
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It’s a lot of things. It’s trial and error and you do have to have patience, but talk to me about the long stream outcomes of option A and option B, going and getting a drug to suppress symptoms and option B, like doing the work to figure out what you got going on and actually correct it so that your body’s back in balance. If somebody’s making a decision today, you know, what is the one year, five year outcome?
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Well, the problem is a lot of the medications that are used, one, they’re not solving the problem. So we’re just gonna use headaches and we’ll just use headaches and migraines here for the example. your most of them are dealing with pain when it happens. So it’s still happening, but you’re getting, you’re getting relief. You do have some prophylactic things, but they generally cause a lot of symptoms and you don’t feel well on them. So, you know, are you sacrificing being exhausted, maybe being dizzy, maybe, you know, having digestive issues.
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There’s a lot of other side effects then that you’re living with. And generally you’re still not headache and migraine free. Maybe they’re a little bit less, but we’re still dealing with it. So it’s that symptom management is the standard approach. So we’re saying, okay, we want them to go away. So we’re taking the time, but we wanna say, okay, what are the things that are causing them? There could be, I’ve charted out, there could be 50 different things about, there’s about 53 things that we’re looking through now.
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It doesn’t take us all that time. You know, they’re grouped and we can, because I’ve done this so many times, it’s not like, okay, but we can look at patterns and we say, okay, well, we’re gonna put all these steps into place and then your body’s going to balance out. And in this, the migraine is a symptom of something. It’s the pain from that is really an alert to you saying, okay, there’s something going on. Here’s the alert.
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And we need to say, what are we doing in order to bring the body back into balance? There was someone years ago told me this analogy and he said, if you took your car to, it was just funny. thought, well, this is like a perfect one for headaches. If you took your car to a mechanic because your car is making a noise, you come in and you say, my car is making a funny noise, it needs fix. And they took the keys that came back and they give you a pair of earmuffs and they say, okay, drive away. Like here you go. And you put the earmuffs on so you didn’t hear the noise. They’re going to be like, I’m not getting back in that car. You need to fix my car.
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But that’s what we’re doing. analogy. Wow. So we’re saying, okay, cover it up and keep going. And we’re not fixing what’s going on in order to get the problem to actually stop. Yeah. Wow. I love analogies and that’s one of the best ones ever. And so then I want to be clear for people listening that
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your approach to headaches or histamine symptoms, these are not normal healthcare practitioner, primary care physician. This is not something that they would address. So we are talking about more of an alternative approach. Can you explain the difference and what functional and integrative medicine is and how somebody might choose to move in that direction? Yeah.
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Exactly. So when you’re in the standard medical model, know, it’s an insurance based model. So there is a lot of stipulations on, on doctors to have to see people at a fairly, you know, fast pace because you’re not getting that time to really hear that story. and, know, I’m not knocking anyone’s method because
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You know, everyone has good intentions, but in certain models where you have to, okay, the next person, the next person, the next person. And typically like we’re saying, you know, testing and medication management. And we’re also looking at a lot of broad ranges. So sometimes when we’re looking functionally, we’re looking like, okay, what are we going to be optimal? When you get lab work, there’s big ranges and we were generally looking conventionally like, okay, are you out of this range? We’re going to address it. So we’re also looking.
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functionally to say, what is going, let’s hear the story. My first appointment with people was 90 minutes. So, I mean, we’re going through like really detailed, I wanna hear the story, how it happened, like, you what led to what, because that’s looking at all the patterns of, okay, this led to this, led to this, and that’s how we got here, and because those things matter. So we’re looking at your health history, your lifestyle, all these things.
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We’re putting the connections together and then we’re saying, okay, let’s connect the dots. Let’s be health detectives and really figure out what is going on. What are the root causes? Usually there’s more than one cause and how are we going to look at that and bring your body back into the natural balance that it should be in. And when you look at your clients, is there a type of person that
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tends to be more capable. What does it take to actually be successful working as a health detective with a doctor over a long period of time? Because I know for myself, you the faster you’re moving and the more stressed you are, the less you actually have time. Your doctor’s not the only one without time. You don’t have time either. So talk to me about what it really takes to change beyond the specifics of any symptoms and
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problem solving that you’re doing, but the actual mindset and the bandwidth that has to be solved for so that you actually can do these things. Yeah. And I think you bring up a great point here because there’s a lot of information out now about natural health, about all these things, but I really think it is good to work with someone because we can give you an exact roadmap.
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So it’s a lot of effort to say, I hear so many people say, well, I tried this and I tried this and I did this and I did, and then they’re failing everything because they’re doing a little bit of this and a little bit of that with no direction. it’s overwhelming and it’s hard. But I always say when I’m working with people, we’re partners in this journey. So it’s not going to ever be like, oh, you have to give all of this thing, you know, up and we’re going to, we need to work within your lifestyle, within your bandwidth. And we need to do what you actually will do. We don’t need to do what.
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everybody says you should do, should do what you can and will do and will move the needle for you individually the most in your life. And that’s different for everyone. And so, you know, I take that and we have a lot of resources. We have like done for you things that aren’t laid out. I have a health coach that really keeps people on. So there’s a lot of steps in place to make this actually happen because I agree, if you don’t have that support,
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it’s hard to know exactly what to do on your own. So we try to give you a clear roadmap of what you need to do and how to actually do it in your unique situation. And everyone’s is a little bit different. So that can be tricky. Yeah. Oh, well, I’ve worked with a functional and integrative doctor. I just did a four five month thing.
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I remember showing up at one of the appointments and being like, I am not drinking that supplement. It’s not happening. Yeah, I know. I did the thing. I’m not doing it. And she was like, all right, we’ll get some broccoli sprouts. there was just a couple other, was basically she was trying to get me sulfur elements. And so I was like, I can eat broccoli. I am not drinking that chalk. I’m not doing it. Well, doctor, this has been an amazing conversation. Can you tell the audience how to find you? mean,
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I was just on your podcast, so I want you to tell them about that. You have a wonderful podcast, but tell us how to find more about you. Yeah. So I have a podcast called A Little Bit Healthier, which we’re talking about all of these health tips all the time. So come over, join us there. I’d love to have you. actually answer questions from our community and we have a lot of fun over at A Little Bit Healthier. My website is, it’s just Meg Mill, M-E-G-M-I-L-L.com. And we have a lot of resources over there, articles, free guides, things you can also
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get a discovery calls because I really do want to make sure everyone I work with is a good fit and a good match. So if you want to talk to me more, you can look at that over there. And I’m also over on Instagram at Dr. Meg Mills. So I have Instagram tips and things. Join me on social. I’d love to connect with you. All right. And I do want to follow up with you to get that histamine guide. Oh, yes. You have a free resource. I will also put that in the show notes. Well, thank you so much.
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Thank you so much for having me. All right. Thank you so much for listening. And there is a link to Dr. Meg’s essential guide to histamine intolerance. I suggest you check that out as well as go follow her podcast a little bit healthier. And then as always, I ask that if this show resonated with you and you have somebody top of mind who would enjoy hearing it, please take the time to share the episode. Just hit the share button, copy the link.
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and then text it to a friend or even text it to yourself if you want to hear it again. I’m working really hard on organic growth for this show. I’m not spending any money on ads. And when you share the show, it really does a lot to support me and the work that I’m doing. And I just want to say and end with thank you so much for being a part of my community. I love you. And I hope that you are finding this show transformative. I hope that it’s making a difference in your life.
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Oh, and one other thing, in the show notes, you can click a link and submit for coaching with me. You just fill out the form. I won’t use your name on air, and it gives me content. I love to answer questions, and I will do a deep dive into whatever situation you have. So there’s a link in the show notes to submit a Q &A so that I can publish more Q &A episodes. I really enjoy doing those. So anyway, I love you. Have a wonderful week, and I’ll see you on the next episode.